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Wikimedia’s brief in the Times-OpenAI case: training can be fair use, substitution shouldn’t be

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The Wikimedia Foundation backs neither side, arguing scraping and transformative pre-training should be fair use while query-time retrieval that replaces the source should need a license. It’s the most useful line yet drawn in the AI copyright fight, though hard to police.

Key takeaways

  • Wikimedia filed an amicus brief in the publishers’ cases against OpenAI and Microsoft, backing neither side.
  • It argues scraping shouldn’t be infringement and unlicensed pre-training can be fair use when the result is new.
  • Retrieval at query time that substitutes for the source should require a license.
  • Wikipedia’s Creative Commons license requires attribution and share-alike; chatbots aren’t honoring it, Wikimedia says.
  • OpenAI calls regurgitation a rare bug; Microsoft says Copilot seldom reproduces full sentences.

A middle path

The Wikimedia Foundation filed an amicus brief in the cluster of cases where publishers including The New York Times are suing OpenAI and Microsoft. It backs neither side, arguing both camps push fair use toward all-or-nothing outcomes that would hurt the open web. As a friend-of-the-court filing, it doesn’t make the foundation a party. Wikipedia sits on both sides of the AI bargain: its pages are among the most important training data, and AI answers pull visitors from the volunteers who write them, yet models help editors catch vandalism, copyright violations and doxxing. The Times alleges OpenAI infringed, including by scraping to build training datasets; OpenAI and Microsoft argue fair use, backed by the administration (administration brief) and allied briefs (fair use briefs).

The proposed line

Scraping
Shouldn’t count as infringement.
Pre-training
Unlicensed training should be fair use when the result is something new.
Retrieval
When a model retrieves copies at query time and delivers them in a way that replaces engagement with the source, that should require a license.

Why both extremes hurt

Learning from text and reproducing it in place of the original are different acts. A clean publisher win could let rights holders gatekeep transformative uses, including open-source tools a nonprofit like Wikipedia depends on, and could chill open models. A clean AI-company win could, in Wikimedia’s framing, greenlight ignoring licensing terms entirely. Wikipedia’s content is free but not condition-free: its Creative Commons license requires attribution and that adaptations stay under the same license, and Wikimedia says chatbots reproducing its text aren’t honoring that. The compromise targets the behavior that drains traffic from publishers and volunteer projects without kneecapping training, the dynamic unsealed filings described as a “doom loop” (doom loop).

Hard to police

OpenAI calls regurgitation a rare bug, and Microsoft points to expert analysis that Copilot seldom reproduces full sentences from grounding news (Copilot matches). “Rare” at hundreds of millions of queries is still a lot of substitution, and a court must decide how much is too much. If adopted, expect attribution and licensing to move to the retrieval layer. Without a line, the commons thins: fewer visitors, fewer editors, worse source material for models. Protecting the people who write the knowledge isn’t anti-AI; it is maintenance. More in our OpenAI coverage, Microsoft coverage and regulation coverage.

Who feels it

AI labs
Training protected; retrieval features licensed.
Publishers
Leverage where substitution happens, not a training veto.
Wikipedia editors
Whether credit and traffic flow back.
Open-source developers
Protection from a narrow fair-use reading.

What to watch

  1. Whether the court engages the training-versus-regurgitation distinction.
  2. Responses from OpenAI, Microsoft or the Times.
  3. AI answers honoring CC attribution and share-alike.
  4. Similar middle-ground briefs.

FAQ

What did Wikipedia argue in the NYT v. OpenAI case?

That scraping and transformative training can be fair use, but query-time retrieval that substitutes for the source should require a license.

Is Wikimedia a party to the lawsuit?

No; it filed a friend-of-the-court brief.

Do chatbots follow Wikipedia’s license?

Wikimedia says chatbots reproducing its text aren’t honoring its attribution and share-alike terms.

Read the original

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